I have a dog I "acquired" due to the fact that these guys were going to shoot her. She wasnt the monster they were looking for. They have the papers on her. But right now she's about 40 pounds and about 8 months old. They wanted one of those bullies. So her I dont know about, My friend has a male out of the honeybunch line, but I dont the exact, I need to get them sometime. I just have the one dog now, but hopefully can get some more school and work kinda prohibits that and the moment. I'm really interested in the garner lines (the elmo, el negro, dynomite lines especially the later), but everyone has them. I also like the colby.