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PostSubject: was the breed in better shape pre 1976?   was the breed in better shape pre 1976? Icon_minitimeSun Mar 08, 2009 9:57 pm

give opinions
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PostSubject: Re: was the breed in better shape pre 1976?   was the breed in better shape pre 1976? Icon_minitimeMon Mar 09, 2009 4:00 am

Why 1976? Are you saying before I was born in 77? LOL I kid I kid.. I am curious to read peoples responses though.
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PostSubject: Re: was the breed in better shape pre 1976?   was the breed in better shape pre 1976? Icon_minitimeMon Mar 09, 2009 4:02 am

Not nessesarily(is that how you spell it) but in rough terms the old timers did the dirty work with the dogs to get us today's apbt
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PostSubject: Re: was the breed in better shape pre 1976?   was the breed in better shape pre 1976? Icon_minitimeMon Mar 09, 2009 4:05 am

The dogs back then only was bred if the dog earned it an not because it looked good
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PostSubject: Re: was the breed in better shape pre 1976?   was the breed in better shape pre 1976? Icon_minitimeMon Mar 09, 2009 4:07 am

turtlebuster100 wrote:
The dogs back then only was bred if the dog earned it an not because it looked good

So, can anyone tell me how the dogs can earn it today? Legally? If not by looks and all that..
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PostSubject: Re: was the breed in better shape pre 1976?   was the breed in better shape pre 1976? Icon_minitimeMon Mar 09, 2009 4:11 am

are you trying to trap me into saying something an why pick my post apart
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PostSubject: Re: was the breed in better shape pre 1976?   was the breed in better shape pre 1976? Icon_minitimeMon Mar 09, 2009 4:13 am

turtlebuster100 wrote:
are you trying to trap me into saying something an why pick my post apart

Nope.. actually.. I'm curious as to how people think dogs can prove themselves now days. Weight pull? Hog hunting? It's a serious question.
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PostSubject: Re: was the breed in better shape pre 1976?   was the breed in better shape pre 1976? Icon_minitimeMon Mar 09, 2009 4:15 am

there is not a tru way legally
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PostSubject: Re: was the breed in better shape pre 1976?   was the breed in better shape pre 1976? Icon_minitimeMon Mar 09, 2009 4:15 am

Sorry.. not prove.. earn it. I've heard people say different things.. and i'm just curious. How do they earn it.. ? Seems the way has swayed toward showing the dog. If not... by pedigree?
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PostSubject: Re: was the breed in better shape pre 1976?   was the breed in better shape pre 1976? Icon_minitimeMon Mar 09, 2009 4:17 am

not even close talk to your boy dunlap he knows everything Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: was the breed in better shape pre 1976?   was the breed in better shape pre 1976? Icon_minitimeMon Mar 09, 2009 4:19 am

Well.. I'm actually asking any member of the board. Since there are so many different views. I've actually heard some say the breed should die out since they are no longer used for their origional use.. I'd hate to see that happen though.
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PostSubject: Re: was the breed in better shape pre 1976?   was the breed in better shape pre 1976? Icon_minitimeMon Mar 09, 2009 4:21 am

theres dogs that are bred the old way still Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: was the breed in better shape pre 1976?   was the breed in better shape pre 1976? Icon_minitimeMon Mar 09, 2009 4:25 am

Oh well .. I'm sure. Do you think it's gotten harder on them though? I mean.. all these yards being busted.. or raided.. even if there is no dog fighting going on. Just a large number of pit bulls these days raises suspicion it seems. What's going to happen in 10.. 20 yrs if the pressure gets higher and higher.. (if the gov't doesn't move onto another breed by then)
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this breed will be here forever
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turtlebuster100 wrote:
this breed will be here forever

I have to wonder what they will be like in 20 yrs though...
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PostSubject: Re: was the breed in better shape pre 1976?   was the breed in better shape pre 1976? Icon_minitimeMon Mar 09, 2009 10:43 pm

hopefully the same i hate to see a change but its going on now with the whole bullie thing
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PostSubject: Re: was the breed in better shape pre 1976?   was the breed in better shape pre 1976? Icon_minitimeMon Mar 09, 2009 10:47 pm

Sure there will always be bullies, but do you not think there are enough people who breed the 'old style' dogs to keep them here?
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PostSubject: Re: was the breed in better shape pre 1976?   was the breed in better shape pre 1976? Icon_minitimeMon Mar 09, 2009 11:27 pm

yes alot of peole have oldschool dogs but the way things are now they just stay on the down low an only mess with a few folks
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PostSubject: Re: was the breed in better shape pre 1976?   was the breed in better shape pre 1976? Icon_minitimeMon Mar 09, 2009 11:34 pm

Didn't the old dogman in the past do the same thing?
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PostSubject: Re: was the breed in better shape pre 1976?   was the breed in better shape pre 1976? Icon_minitimeMon Mar 09, 2009 11:40 pm

here pocket ill move this post to bloodlines ok
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PostSubject: Re: was the breed in better shape pre 1976?   was the breed in better shape pre 1976? Icon_minitimeMon Mar 09, 2009 11:44 pm

I was thinking about that.....just hadn't got around to it....
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PostSubject: Re: was the breed in better shape pre 1976?   was the breed in better shape pre 1976? Icon_minitimeTue Mar 10, 2009 10:59 pm

I gotta agree..this breed may not be here in 20-30 yrs. There is such a diversity in the breed and unfortunately people DO still use these dogs for fighting which will continue only to give the APBT a bad name for lack of understanding and knowing it's history and it's true image as a great family comapanion.

As for legal PROOF of a dogs worth to breed, I firmly believe that conformation SHOULD be a great way...it's SUPPOSED to look at the dog as a whole to see if it's conformation or parts of the body move and are positioned right for what they were originally bred to do...however I think that so many have gotten away from this and get blinded by what a single person/judge prefers which is how we got to the point of having such a huge diversity in the first place. I also think that dog sports i.e. weight pull/hog hunting great ways to prove a dogs worth because it shows the true potential of the dogs drive and work ability it would have shown in the fighting ring.

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